Difficulties
There is a word among us that is often used to describe me.
Unfortunately, it is “snarky.”
Yes, I have that unfortunate quality. Dan receives the brunt of it because he’s the producer, but I’m sure everyone has gotten a dose of it at some point in time. I cringe hearing some of the playback of things I’ve said when I’m in the editing room.
Anyways…. snarky. I was snarky to Dan the other day because we had a creative difference over something in the edit. I really wanted this very very brief scene in the edit, because I felt it gave a bit more depth to the relationship of these two characters. Dan was saying it didn’t make sense, and I just shut down. I didn’t want to hear it, and I got defensive of my work:
Dan: “I didn’t hear anything in the dialogue before this shot that allows for this response.”
Me: “Yeah, but there is that scene with Jami inbetween, so we don’t know what’s been said in that time.”
Dan: “Neither does the viewer!”
Me: “…They can fill in the gaps – all they have to do is think about it!”
Well after thinking about it some more after we ended the conversation and I was in a snarky mood, I began to think about it some more, and he was right. While I am a big fan of viewer involvement and viewer thought, you can’t expect them to fill in gaps without at least giving them a push in the right direction – you can’t use viewer ignorance as an excuse for a story that lacks clarity.
It’s a difficult balancing act. I really want that scene, but there really isn’t a good place to put it. We’ve been giving it some thought, and we might have an idea that might work, but I don’t know yet.
It all goes back to how one can’t let one’s love of the part ruin the integrity of the whole.
And it’s also a good lesson that I should let go of the ego trip and listen to criticism with a better attitude.
MAKING ‘MOMENTS’ – Webisode 02
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MAKING ‘MOMENTS’ – Webisode 01
The webisode on Moments – a film by sabi – details filmmaker conversations about charting a new course for editorial.
Akin to the exciting and free spirit of improv through which the film was shot, the filmmakers discuss trying something unconventional: editing for exploration rather than picture lock.
NOTE: This webisode on Moments – a film by sabi was shot before this Monday’s Editor Meeting – where all saw Joshua’s work and were blown away by it.
Joshua has been exploring the material in new and unique ways, and the following webisode details a producer / director meeting that occurred prior to Josh’s pod-cast.
Directing Improv: Discarding the Words; Finding a Voice
Understandably, many actors are simply uncomfortable with the idea of using your own words for the character, but what should be happening is that the director and the actor are together finding the character’s voice.

Martie Ashworth and Sue Gaetzman in White Knuckles
The Screenplay: Discarding the Words for Dramatic Improvisation in Interdependent Films.
Freeing oneself from the confines of the words on the page sometimes makes for a more authentic route for the actor that seeks to explore and refine his/her craft. Often actors feel this process is more artistic, more “experiential”, and ultimately, more fulfilling when executed well, with a director that nurtures the kind of atmosphere necessary for good dramatic improvisation to occur. What’s fascinating, is that often when it’s all said and done (and the film is put together) most of the beats and the words that were true in the original locked script, end up on screen anyway – but filtered through the heart and soul of the actor/artist. And most of the scenes that never rang completely true – now do. I wonder what it would be like to reverse-write White Knuckles or Heart of Now (which was a terrific script written by Zak Forsman all on it’s own) – just to see how the words have changed and/or stayed the same. I’ve never gotten around to doing something like this, but someday maybe a huge Sabi fan will transcribe our films. It would be interesting at the most – the final film is the ultimate tale: what happens on set, and what is carved in the edit – is the truest story.
However, back to writing a screenplay to discard it: in discussing problems that might happen during Directing Improvisation by asking your actors to discard their words, there are instances in directing improvisation in interdependent films where an honest performance is given and the emotions and words shared are true — but the beat is not honest for the character at that particular point in the story.
EARLY EMOTION
With improvisation, actors tend to courageously dive into the conflict head on – floodgates tend to open early on for an actor once they get the hang of it (and a lot comes out in particular scenes at the top of the production schedule where critical emotions that are to be explored later are felt “too early”). That is ok. Everything is useful. Chemistry that will be explored later is sometimes put down here as a ground-work, or a foundation. And I believe this happens generally, if the scenes’ intentions & objectives are not structured properly. Again, that is ok. Every production is rusty at the start, particularly on feature films heavy with dramatic improvisation. There are ways to prepare for this. Rehearsals, meetings, and call back-auditions are a way to kick start everything (if each are done as if we were shooting the scene).
With White Knuckles we had a full rehearsal with the actors doing character exercises – and it happened a) on set, b) in the scene, c) with lights, d) with camera and sound — i.e. full on. And still we called it a rehearsal (though we were prepared to use it somewhere if it was needed – it wasn’t). The idea was to get moving, slowly – pushing the train the first few inches…
With Heart of Now, we got things rolling with what we called “Pre-Shoots” – 5 days of shooting with a bare-bones crew – which I think helped us ease into production (Note: there was also a million other things the core team – Jamie, Zak, Kester & Sam did to help the actors transition into this feature that would last 30 amazing and memorable days of everyone’s life – like White Knuckles).
HONEST BUT NOT TRUE OVERALL
But when discarding the words (which takes some time at the start) there are times — fascinating moments where the actors have a legitimate feeling about something and go with it – but it is incongruent to the journey of the character in a way that would alter the story to its detriment. I.e. change the direction of the story too far in an unrecoverable direction. Sometimes it’s compelling, real, honest, and exciting – but just not right for the overall arc of the story (which the director and producer and editor carries). Sometimes it is right, even though it was totally unplanned – and we must adjust the story around the moment accordingly. But again – if it is not honest for the overall journey of the story – or if the new material doesn’t excite and challenge the director to explore a new direction with everyone & the entire production schedule – then it must be lost immediately. Cut, clear our minds, re-set, move on.*
WHEN TO CUT, KEEP ROLLING
*It is important for the director here to be as quick and decisive as possible about where to stop an actor during improv, i.e. when to re-set rather than give a note and keep rolling, trying something different. On one hand all the previous takes are explorations of the take/moments that will be used (and should be allowed to play out) – on the other hand, a director doesn’t want to exhaust an actor (and acting for dramatic improvisation for all actors involved is physically exhausting). Also, too many different options without clear direction leads to confusion (for the actor on set, and the editor in the bay).
Of course, this happens (exhaustion, confusion) – and there is no way of avoiding it. 8-10 hour days max for the actors I believe is a great help to heavily improvised shooting – to stave off the exhaustion factor. But I say this to say, it’s important for a director to be fully aware of what will and will not be used in the final edit – on set – as best as possible. And rather than cutting these moments off too soon – in directing improvisation, it helps to let them play out, let the emotions rise and fall again naturally. Especially when discarding the words of the screenplay. There are awkward silences in these moments that are real and could otherwise never have been staged. There are glances of a deeper understand, and the struggling to find the right words. All of this is real. And conversely, there are often beats that happen just after an intense improvisation scene where the actor may say the perfect line — out of real exhaustion — long after a conventional filmmaker would call ‘cut’. A glance often says everything without all the words before it, and to help ensure we get these kinds of looks when directing improv – we often do what we call a “silent take” after all the other takes are completed. We did this quite a bit with White Knuckles and it helped us tremendously in the edit (though it’s not necessary if you’re actors don’t rush through improv – as in comedic improv).
Often, that little tiny silent beat where the camera kept rolling might end up being the only part used in the final edit, if that is what is honest in that moment – and right for the overall story.
